UAP-Related_Records_FOIA_Release_Jan2024.pdf

(U) Purpose 
1. (U) The purpose of this work paper is to document our interview with Major David 
Grusch on July 12, 2021. 
2. (U) We interviewed Major Grusch to determine whether he could provide background 
information that might be relevant to our evaluation. 
3. (U) The Overall classification of this meeting was at the TOP 
SECRET//TK//NOFORN level due to the vulnerabilities, subject matter discussed, and 
potential compilation of information. 
(U) Sources: 
1. (U) The interview was conducted on June 12, 2021. 
2. (U) Attending the interview: 
A. (U) [Air Force] Major David Grusch 
B. (U) …

2. (U) The team prepared a list of questions to guide the discussion with Major Grusch 
regarding the DoD's actions taken in response to unidentified aerial 
phenomena (UAP); however, the interview was conducted in a less 
structured manner, allowing Major Grusch to provide any information he 
believed was relevant to our evaluation. 
A. Summary of Interview: 
1. (U) On July 12, 2021, we met with Major David Grusch to obtain information he had 
regarding our evaluation of the DoD's actions taken in response to unidentified aerial 
phenomena (UAP). 
recommended that we speak to Major Grusch 
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6. (U) Major Grusch stated that he recommended the DoD fund and conduct "red and 
blue assessments" [of UAP], in addition to establishing a permanent office to investigate 
what he called "strategic anomalies." Additionally, Major Grusch provided us with a 
copy of a briefing regarding a proposed permanent office to handle such strategic 
anomalies (including UAP). 
(U) Conclusion 
1. (U) Major Grusch provided us with general background information on the DoD's 
actions regarding UAP (to his knowledge). 

Strategic Anomaly Resolution

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90% are explainable 
10% are blue programs 
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90% are explainable 
10% are unexplainable 
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Strategic Anomalies 
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90 % are explainable 
Theories 
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All are explainable 
{weather, airplane, 
balloon,space 
debris, etc) 
90% are explainable 
10% are red programs 
10% are from somewhere else 
Resolution 
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Theories 
Background 
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Background 
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A Task Force is Temporary 
What should an enduring, 
comprehensive capability look like? 

Objectives 
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Key Questions 
Lines of Effort (LOE) 
Primary 
Focus 
What is it? - Scope & Severity 
(1) Operations & Intelligence 
How does it work? 
(2) Research & Development 
Secondary 
Enablers 
What do we do about it? 
(3) Policy 
How do we talk about it 
(4) Communication 
How do we work with others? 
(5) Partnerships 
How do we protect our equities? ( 6) Security 

Focus Areas 
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Operations & Intel 
Research & Development 
Patterns/Characteristics 
Knowledge Management & Data mining 
Open Source, Classified, & Direct Witness Reporting 
Support Ops/Analysis, Data Sharing, Visualization 
Control Variables 
Collection Infrastructure 
Dedicated Collection Campaigns 
Tailored for Missions, Calibrated, Repeatable 
Avoid Strategic Surprise 
Hypothesis Generation 
Collection on foreign programs 
Academics, Experimentalists, Engineers Co-located 
Rapid Breakthroughs 
Reengineering 
Recovery 
Infrastructure & Experts 
Assess Risk 
Tech Transfer 
Threat Assessment…