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STATEMENT OF WITNESS Place : Grants, NM Date: 20 June 95 I, Raymond A. Madson, Lt Col, USAF (Ret), hereby state that James McAndrew was identified as a Lieutenant, USAFR on this date at my place of employment and do hereby, voluntarily and of my own free will, make the following statement. This was done without having been subjected to any coercion, unlawful influence or unlawful inducement. I was born, raised, and presently reside in New Mexico. I graduated from New Mexico A&M College in 1954. I entered the Air Force in 1955 and was assigned a short time later to the Aero Medical Laboratory a…

I participated in at least two dummy recoveries. The meteorologist from the Balloon Branch, Duke Gildenberg, would determine the best place to launch the balloons depending on the prevailing weather conditions. Duke also predicted, with considerable accuracy, where the dummies would impact. I specifically recall a dummy I recovered near the Jornada test range, between Leasburg and Organ , NM. During this recovery I drove a weapons carrier and I was only able to locate one of the dummies, I never found out what happened to the other one. The next recovery I remember was on a ranch just southwes…

Lt. Col. Raymond A. Madson, USAF (Ret) "Roswell Incident" Grants, New Mexico 20 dune 1995 Interviwer: 1st Lt James McAndrew Or We are in Grants, New Mexico and this is an interview ben. lite Col. Raymond Aj ~Madsony U.S. Air Horce, Retained. SOye Eris JUST Swank Orm by Saving tie pumpose Of thas interview is to determine if projects that you worked on while you were in the Air Force have any relevance to what has become known as "The Roswell Incident." Have you heard about this? A: I had heard about "The Roswell Incident," yes. But had not heard in great detail about it. @: Okayer Well, welll …

MADSON — 6/20/95 the escape section of the Aero Med dab. ~And during that assignment, I worked on high altitude bailout and on parachute iLevaveliiigye; aes} WueILSS.. Iwas a EeSt parachutist, alse a fest subject form Broject Mercury Suit Evaluation. I was a test subject for various KESCALCHh PEOTECES Involving space Plight, Suit evaluation, checking instrumentation for extended space flight and for a Variety Of items, a Low bulk space diet, and various things like hia. Os Okay. And so you went to Wright-Patterson and you worked on these projects and just -- well, what else did you do and in w…

MADSON - 6/20/95 I moved from Sea-Tac Airport, the Seattle-Tacoma area, up to Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska. I was there -- the service commitment there or the assignment was normally a three year tour but while there I applied for graduate training in Mi ecrobrology through eEhe Avr Force dnstituee oF Rechnoliogy and I was selected for that. But in order to make my return to the south 48 coincide wath my entry ato school, I really extended hOm Six months. i was in Alaska thmee and ia alk Wears. From there I reported to the University of Arizona in Tucson. I enrolled in the gra…

MADSON - 6/20/95 vibrational impact equipment and I was in that position doing parachute landing injury research for about one year. I was transferred to the toxicology laboratory where I was getting started in analyzing the effects of rocket fuels, rocket fuel spills on soil microflora and then I transferred again to the impact branch, continuing my research on parachute landing LIN NEY About the last six months of my career, I was transferred to the (inaudible) Technology Division where I was the FTD salesman with the Aero Med Lab, the life support system project office, a human resources la…

MADSON - 6/20/95 Ox All rvights Okay, SO One Of the projiectes cthake weve identified that may have bearing on the so-called "Roswell Incident" was Project 7218 which became known as Project High Dive and then it became Project 7222, known as Project Excelsior. And I'd just like you to describe how you became involved and in what capacity and how long were you a participant in this project. A: Well, when I transferred into the escape section, I was Given the opportunity Go. work on the high allevtude bail out project in which dummies were being launched from balloons at Holloman Air Force Base…

MADSON —- 6/20/95 DULG =— ln Novembery 959. 5 . Ok Now what point did you -- what time did Schwartz leave and then you took over? A: Schweast7y, lone sin Ene Spring Of M956, as  vecaiel = Og So then did you take over his position? A: i Cook over lis —- welll at was now.an- authorized position. The Aero Med Lab had many people that were in unauthorized slots and I was one of those. They had a resource of research officers and they had the work and even though we were not holding down an authorized slot on the manning document, we were doing the work. And I do not believe Schwartz was in an auun…