HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf

EWD NOTES: 10/16/02 Eric Davis Meeting with Adm. Wilson. Rich says to go. to EG&G Special Projects building at Grier and Paradise. “Meet at 10 A.M. ~— don’t be late!!” * 10:10 (Adm. late) ° . Arrives with two Navy officers in uniform — he’s in suit—now civilian Tn uniform: 1 (full) Lt; 1 Cmdr; a petty officer drives car, ‘Greetings. with Adm. Wilson We sit in his car in back of EG&G building. Talk until 11:20 A.M. Others departed for building; to attend meeting inside (at 10:10). ‘TW: Hello! The minute I saw your(EWD) resume, US Uniformed Services ID copy, AF orders and physics paper Rich gave…

TW: I found it, where IJooked, who. I talked to but did-not name every one-~- that’s it, EWD: I show Miller letter (to me, EWD) dated 4/25/02 — please evaluate. _ TW: Gaughs) Didn't tell Miller EVERYTHING! Miller: knows'what E.did in Pentagon Records Group search but no more. Miller can.make good ediicated guess on who (contractors) has alien hardware. Do not pay Miller—sounds hard up‘to.pay for nice Florida home-and private beach:privilege — (laughs)! TW: Miller can give good advice on which defense, companies to look at — that's all he knows. [changes subject} 7 - Oke told all about JA (does…

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TW: Told Oke it’s a bad time - time no good to talk to me (EWD) — too busy. Said Oke too difficult to contact anymore — heard he was in and out of hospital — extremely sensitive to:stress/heart sick — bad news — tried calling::-Linda takes messages but noné returned, she doesn’t want much on Oke’s plate for fear... Didn’t say yes or no-to request —J would think.on it. Three years pass and retiring = + left DIA July (2002) — replaced by . Adm. Jacoby.. TW: Came to test site special area to wrap up projects (he began in '98) — suiccessor can’t be bothered with right now for lack of time and know…

- Violated that and confidentiality EWD: How? TW: Miller told Greer their conversation ~ - Whoknows whom élsé he.and Greer told. . (EWD note — Miller told Ed Mitchell who only told me in 1999) TW: Them he talks to Kean and Boston Globe articles came out - Notsure what he told Kean, but articles réferenced me (T'W) - FURIOUS!’ - Gotcalls from all over - EWD: What was their nature? TW: Sarcastic, stupid jokes, stupid comments, comments of surprise and derision (that I would be talking to UFO nuts/qutty. UFO groups, etc.) EW: Who? TW: Co-workers (flag officers) in Pentagon, lower staff, civilian …

- Suggestion came from Ward (Gen. M. Ward) to go through the records groups files (like-an index system) in OUSDAT (Office.of the Under Secretary of Défense for Acquisition atid Techriology) - Ran into Bill Perry in May 797 — talked about this quietly — he suggested the same thing - They told me ofa special. projects record group not belonging to usual SAP — a special subset of the unacknowledged/carve-outs/waived programs — not . belonging to usual SAP divisions as organized in 94 by Perry himself —set apart from rest but buried/covered by.conventional SAPs EWD: Who was USDAT? TW: Uh, was Pau…

TW: She said by phone call that security and other program budget records were being re-vamped and relocated to'their own records groups. Security budgets were sometimes cumulative and not annual numbers, easy to see how misunderstanding occurs when comparing to-annual program | budget:figures: 6-7 times could be 2-5 years cumulative total — there have been errors in way security budgets reported. TW: Perry ordered all these issues to be reorganized and.straightened out to improve audit transparency. : EWD: Change subject: so what SAP compartment did you find in? TW: Core sécrét —:won’t say | …