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A JAL flight engineer, Yoshio Tsukuba, was interviewed by Pete Beckner of FAA on January 15, 1987, through an interpreter, Sayoko Mimoto, regarding to the UFO which had been sighted on the 17th of November, 1986, by Captain Terauchi. Beckner: Describe what you saw. Tsukuba: May I speak in Japanese? Beckner: Oh! Yes, please. Mimoto: Oh! yes, please. Tsukuba: The first time I saw it was through the Li window, at ‘ the 11 o'clock position. It looked larger than navigation lights. I do not remember’ exactly how many of those (lights) were there but clusters of lights were undulating. Beckner: What…

Tsukubas Beckners Tsukubas Beckner : Tsukuba: Beckner : Tsukubas Beckner : Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckner : Tsukubas Beckner: It was just at sunset at right front of us. There was a stripe of red line and almost dark, it was almost pitch dark behind us. How was the lighting conditions inside the cockpit? We had night illumination at above sideways. I was using a spot light while calculating the data. I do not remember whether the Captain had the lights turned off or not. There is a switch that can turn the light to regular fluorescent or to dark. It was set to dark. How long did you see th…

Tsukubas The points I would like to reinforce are that the lights in front of us were different from town lights. I can not describe the shape. I am not as certain as I am about the lights on the left side. I. do not know what the shape of the objects was. So I am sure that the lights that were in front of us were different from town lights. When I was interviewed here at the first time by FAA personnel, I was not sure whether the object was an UFO or not. My mind has not changed since then. Peter E. A.S. I. Beckner Sayoko D. Mimoto Interpreter

Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukubas Beckner : Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckner: Tsukubas Beckners Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckners: Alpha 7,000. It is made by Minoruta. I wonderwhat it is called in America. Have you seen this kind of thing before? Was this the first time anything of this nature has happened tao you? Yes, this was the first time. Who first sighted the object? I do not know which person picked it up first. I was making a landing data. The Captain told us to see if there is a some kind of object outside. Did you see the radar? When the Captain told me toa look, I co…

Tsukubas Beckner : Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckner: Tsukubas Beckner: Tsukuba: Beckner: Tsukubas Mimoto: Tsukuba: Backner: When the United aircraft was passing by, we were seeing the second lights. Did the intensity of lights change? The first lights I saw was unchanged until they disappeared. The second one, it was so hard to see. In my mind, I am not certain whether it was lights of a distant town or a strange object. What were the weather conditions? It was clear. Did you see any stars? I think there were stars, but... Any magnetic disturbance? No. Wer…

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