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STATEMENT OF WITNESS Place: Mary Ester, FL Date: 31 May 95 I, Roland H. Lutz, CMSet, USAF, (Ret), hereby state that James McAndrew was identified as a Lieutenant, USAFR on this date at my home and do hereby, voluntarily and of my own free will, make the following statement. This was done without having been subjected to any coercion, unlawful influence or unlawful inducement. I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1947 and transferred to the U.S. Air Force in 1958. In June, 1958 I was assigned to the flight surgeon’s office at Holloman AFB, NM as an Aero Medical Technician. I served several tours in S…

I was present the entire time when the events described here took place. I am certain that this event had nothing to do with “space aliens” or any other irregular activity that would require a cover up. It was a balloon crash and nothing else. I am not part of any conspiracy to withhold or provide misleading information to the United States Government or the American public. There is no classified information that I am withholding related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by U.S. Government persons concerning refraining from talking about this matter. Subscribed and sworn before…

Chief Master Sergeant Hap Lutz (Ret) Si May 1995 Interviewer: lst Lt James McAndrew Os i Seme you im the mail a copy of a sepone we wrote. last summer at the Secretary Of the Air Force's Office where we wer asked by the GAO to investigate or do some research on something that's known as the Roswell incident. I sent you that. Did you have a chance to review that? A: WES, 2b clicl. Oz HOw unicumecond), lid 7quse Jike you to state vour namer A: My name is Roland H. Lutz, Chief Master Sergeant, Retired, United States Air Force. Pelive at 707 Crestwood Stvece, Merry msiclieie, Wiesel. Os We're goin…

CMSER HAP MUZE (Ret) > 95/38/95 im that parercular mission, in that project, and explain what you remember about that day, that mission. AS I was assigned that mission by my flight surgeon, Les Bason, a captain at that time, now out of the Air Force and “etlred, Of course. A doctor, flight surgeom. He asked me to cover this particular mission from Holloman Air Force Base over the San Andreas mountains to Roswell, New Mexico, and the surrounding area of Walker Air Force Base. It was a balloon of three individuals involved in the gondola. Captain Kaufman, Captain Fulgham and Captain Kittinger as…

CUSTER IVA IU ONSc) = S/S / 9S A: Right. He came running at the helicopter and me shaking his fist and shouting, "My cattle have broken the fenc GO sound them up.” i eoOld shim = wasn e a Cowboy, ena © was a medic and tl had some injured people. He was not concerned about us, he was concerned about his cattle, of course. I remember vaguely the cattle breaking the fence, and hopefully they would not come towards us, and they didn't. But then we went into Walker Air Force Base and took my DaeleMmes an thew, asa were. My tirse. thang was to Call 7a flighe surgeon, Of course. 1 Called the duty fli…

CMSGT HAP LUTZ (Ret) - 5/31/95 azound huis head which ate his Eime had: growm to Cnormity.  —<Of course his eyes had blackened, the sockets around it had turned black as a result of the blood collecting around it. The hematoma had gotten larger. Talk of aspiration was done, but gehen we decided, i think, somewhere im this conversaevon, tO put heme an any oseeroita that was Sake CO Eity. mim im seeom there, to Holloman Aim Horce Base and perhaps take that task at that point. WE COE cin Cuilwoicaic, C-54 wyoe, = chic mor co iim cae aircraft. Captain Kittinger, Captain Kaufman did. I responded ba…

GMSGi HAP. LULZ: (Ret) —.5/31/95 Oz You kind of remember it the way the other guys did. What I'll ask you about is, when you saw the accident, do you remember if there were other Air Force people on the ground that were in the area, other than the three pilots in the balloon? A: leahavie tO. De. Very. mieonk with VOUr el COM wt. =. asamp, don! = Undoubtedly, they were, but at was moe Eo my... =fhae probably was not a point of my interest. My interest was getting into the helicopter and covering them. No, I simply don't. @: You said you were in the helicopter and you followed them during the da…

CMSGE HAP LUIZ (Ret) = 5/31/95 INB haes eagle. Ox When they were dumped out, you looked them over, saw that you had an injury, got them on the helicopter... A: I made a cursory examination right away, right. I could see that Pulgham's Mead@was Starting to spell right wal: Tt was a sudden onset type of thing. The blow was so traumatic that the injury response was swelling of the head almost Immediately... decould see that. I did not remember... I may have, but I don't remember moving his helmet, or his helmet got knocked off. I don't pemember thats I know Ttvs important, probably, to the invest…