40989226-001

Gerald Anderson* A: We drove down to the Plains of San Agustin which is west of Socorro, New Mexico in the Magdalena, Datil, area. We were down there looking for banded and moss agate, which according to my uncle Ted and my cousin Victor was prevalent in the area. My brother being an amateur rock hound had wanted to get some of this. That was a way of showing us around the area. They had relatives down in Magdalena that they wanted to introduce us to. So we had gone down there and we got down in the Horse Springs area and had driven off onto the plains down an old rutted road for, oh, a mile o…

and just sat there and kind of looked back and forth, watching them, apparently trying to figure out what was going on... Q: What did it look like, a little bit more. A: These creatures, all of them, were, oh, about four foot tall, four and a half feet tall. They had very large heads that were shaped larger on the top and they kind of tapered down, not to a real sharp point but just tapered down where they were thin. And they had very large, very large, oval shaped or almond shaped, I guess you could say, black eyes. The head... They were so shiny, they had almost a bluish tint to them when th…

Then the suits were continuous with their footwear. We could see right this area down, it seemed to be less pliable then it was up here, like this was a stiffer area, like they were boots or shoes or something. But they were all dressed exactly the same. Q: Okay. So youand your family are talking back and forth, wondering what was going on, what did your family say? I mean... A: Well... Q: ...did they say anything? A: Yes, my brother, one of his first remarks I heard him say him say, “That’s a god damn spaceship.” You know there were bodies up there and, you know, I was told not to go up there…

A Very, very hot. Incredible to me, being the first time in New Mexico and coming from back east. I had dry heaves. It was like the inside ofan oven. It was unbelievable to me. You know, the odd part about this was that the closer you got to it, the cooler it was. And standing under it in the shade there next to these creatures’ bodies, it was like refrigerated air conditioning. And... Q: Did you feel air coming out of this thing? A: No, it was just like it was (inaudible). And I remember reaching up and putting my hand on the side of it but [think I was afraid I was going to hit my head becau…

grazing. I could see a windmill and could see dust trails out on the plains out there. And, oh, I was there for a while and then I came back down. I guess we were there — Victor was, when I got back down there Victor was up in the craft and Ted yelled at him to get out of there and Glen went over and grabbed him by the belt and jerked him around... Q: That’s your brother? A NES! And jerked him off, says, “Get out because this thing may explode and kill us all,” you know, and then of course he went prowling around in there. I was kind of standing off to one side looking. That’s why I knew that …

And it’s quite a ways across that plain so it had to take a very long time to do this or they may have had a vehicle, I don’t know. That’s an assumption, I think, on my part, where they walked. Q: Okay. So they’ re around... A: But they came across... Q: ... with the family... A: ...the plains. [don’t know why I said that. ’m not sure if they drove or not. I didn’t hear any cars. Q: And then somebody else shows up? A: Yes, they were down just, oh, 15 maybe 20 minutes tops, you know. And they were picking up things, some of the students. And this Dr. Buskirk, that they called him, this one girl…

and stuff on and he’s, you know, working these radios. And they all pulled up and stopped. Q: Which direction did they come from, do you know? A: They came from the north, from the Horse Springs area, right... Q: So they could have come off the highway there... A: Oh, yes. I’m sure that’s exactly how they got there. They come off the highway, the same way we did. Well, in the meantime, when the stopped, this black soldier, this sergeant, the reason I know he was a sergeant, my brother told me he was, and he got out of this car and then a guy got out on the other side and he was a, Glen said he…

You know, trying to stop this. And I think we came very close to having someone shot. Then they really started threatening, you know, and they... Q: Did the redhead do all the talking, pretty much? A: Pretty much. Except once in a while the sergeant would, you know, chime in and make statements like that to other people in response to the redhead. But mainly it was the redhead... Q: Was there a name tag? A: Yes, sir, there was. His name was Armstrong. And I’m not sure if] know that from having read it or know that from remembering it and now being able to read itin my memory, or ifsomeone said…